Grateful Dead Live at Barton Hall, Cornell University on 1977-05-08
Lineage: -- Steve Maizner's Sony ECM-990>Sony TC-152 aud master>First Gen Reel>played directly to hard drive by Karen Hicks
Subject: not the best show ever - no ...
Subject: We bullshitted our way in.
I don't remember the show much due to the usual reasons so I am glad to be able to hear it again here.
Subject: Jerry Moore
Subject: Cornell '77
An up-tempo show.
Cornell L.D. (Follow Spot Guy) You may want to clarify. The Strong Super Trouper Mk. 3 was in use at this time. I know. I ran one. Carbon Arc, 2kw, "gloves on."
Subject: I was there....
Subject: My Great Aunt's 52nd Birthday
This show is probably in the holy trinity of Grateful Dead shows, the other two being 2/28/69 and 8/27/72.
Subject: Happy Barton Hall Day!
And I've just received news that today is officially Grateful Dead Day in Ithaca, with Cornell students celebrating by playing this show all over campus!
Subject: Hard to Pick
And yet, I can certainly pick a favorite show--this one.
Awesome sound quality.
Subject: Are soundboard mixes still downloadable?
Funny thing also, I went to Cornell at the time and saw this show. First Dead show ever! I was way impressed with how the dead managed to make Barton Hall, which had notoriously bad sound (big volume, lots of echo), actually sound okay. They did this by hoisting the speakers up halfway up to the ceiling, so they were projecting down the middle. It made it sound great most everywhere. Very clever I thought, since I hadn't seen any other band do this in Barton Hall.
Anyways, any help in finding soundboard recordings or mixes of them would be great!
Subject: Oh Great Ones .. ..
Whatever's your ppoison, ENjoY, ye b a lng tme gone, and hope (most's) all well in your part of the world.
groetjes,gracias y Slan,
Subject: Check out my photo from this epic show!
This was also the only general-admission show where I actually worked my way right up to the front and managed to take some pictures. I shot the best one during the slow vocals on St. Stephen... Since this show seems to be very under-documented visually, I thought I'd put up the link for everybody's enjoyment:
It's too bad that my college roommate's head takes up so much room between Bobby and Donna, but hey, it's still a great shot! Dig it!
(Technical info: Shot on 35mm Tri-X with a Petri Color 35, exposed at 1/15th at f/2.8, and developed in D-76. I just made a new 8x10 print from the negative about four years ago and scanned it, probably at 200dpi, and made minor adjustments for contrast/brightness and retouched out some dust.
Aside regarding archival original media: I seriously doubt that anybody will be able to read anything off of a digi-cam memory card after 30+ years, whereas this negative was in perfect usable condition! I've got nothing against digital imaging, but old-school film photography is still MAGIC!)
Subject: if yer still not sure...
Subject: Who am I to say?
My only observation is that there is certainly something about this band that we are all still hard-pressed to define. Whether you lived it or not.
And at age 53, I will miss them until the end of my days.
Obviously a great show. as of now it is my favorite dead show. i do believe this is their best show, at lease the best show i've heard so far.
Subject: Special Place In All Our Hearts
When I downloaded this show from WinMX (remember?) I did not know of this shows status of being one of the best, I just wanted more Dead. I remember having this show across three cds. The famous Betty Board with the missing intro. I remember walking home and always having the second cd in my 'discman' The second cd was from Mama Tried all the way till the end of the Scarlet-Fire. I loved Mama Tried but would usually skip through Row Jimmy because I could not wait for the Dancing In The Sreets. Loved Bob's 'Take A Step Back' it always made me smile. Walking home from school with the sun in my face, care-free 16-17 year old and listening to this music....I felt so honoured. It must be a gift from God.
I would joke around sometimes and speak "deadhead" language to some other kids at school. They have never even heard of the band before. Imagine their faces when I would press pause at lunch time and tell them the band was playing Scarlett into Fire! hahahaha. I did not bother trying to get people on the bus. I was having a difficult time getting people to like the catchy songs of the Beatles, Rolling Stones, WHO etc I kept the Grateful Dead all to myself.
Now I sit here listening to this show....on my iPod, almost midnight, 2010. I am always taken back to those special care-free days of my last two years of highschool, which I loved. Although I was not at this show, Atleast I have a special place this show takes me to. I am sure everyone here has one.
I would like to hear stories from the rest of you. We all know the music is great. Almost pointless for a review.
Subject: OH YEAH!!!
Subject: Long time hippie was there and it was magic
Subject: the first time is always the best
Subject: Walk me out...
all time favorite version of Morning Dew for sure.
Subject: Best tape in the box
Subject: dancin in the streets
Subject: This is the best overall
1) Best bass capture and overall balance between all instruments and instruments vs. vocals.
2) Least clipping/over-saturation.
That said, the overall sound levels are a bit lower than the other three recordings on this version, and the dynamic range *appears* narrower - but this is likely the use of a more aggressive Dolby B circuit. On playback with a Dolby B unit with a decent 32-bit DSP all four recordings "blossom" very satisfactorily.
All four recordings are, however, Grade AAA, 5-star, despite slight flaws and one small error in two of them.
I have the "Moore-Cribbs" version on my personal iPod because I like the extra guitar and piano presence on that recording; but usually play the "Shure57-Stevenson" version on my stereo (but you could hurt yourself with this version using ear buds IMHO).
One last note, the "Shure57-Stevenson" recording is the best *ever* of Jerry's guitar, bar none, and every fan will want this recording in their collection!
These four recordings are definitely among the best of all time. Thanks to the Tapers and to ama-lingua.com for making all this possible.
Subject: Check out Jeff Stevenson's recording, too.
Subject: Great, But Not the Best
Subject: ok, look.....
Subject: top 10 shows ever!
Subject: Terrible quality..
Where can I download a copy of the show that sounds like this: http://www.ama-lingua.com/details/gd77-05-08.matrix.dan.26856.sbeok.flacf
im new to the archives and i have been downloading usually single songs from soundboard shows but know when i try to download anything, firefox tells me it cannot find the song file. is there something i can do to fix this?
yes, i dont really know shit about computers but i love the dead so any help would be great
Subject: NOODLING & SLIDE PLAYING.
SAFE TOUGH AND STLL GOT SOME REUNION DICIPLINE.
LIKE SLOWER THAN 76,BUT FASTER THAN 78.
CANT REALY JUDGE ENERGY LEVEL TOO POOR SOUND
QUALITY FOR THAT, ALL TOP AND NO BOTTOM.
TO MUCH ROOM AS WELL. THE SLIDE SOLOS INTERESTING
AS USUAL LIKE CANT HIT A GOOD NOTE JUST HIT EM ALL. THE CONTRAST WOULD BE JERRY PLAYIN STEELGUITAR WICH HE MANAGED QUITE WELL I THINK.
SO NOT THAT BIG DEAL TO ME I STICK TO THE MIDDLE.
Ten million people for whom this was the first decent "modern" sounding board tape they ever heard can be wrong.
This show is too noodly, with extra cheese.
There, I said it.
Subject: Ithaca is Gorges!
I can't say it was the best I ever heard? My first show I went to was probabally the best but who is to really say? Perception is tied to memories of that moment of music and phriends as much as the quality of performance.
No wonder I ended up liking the Dead so much... there was something magical about this show....
Subject: this was the best tape!
cornell '77 with the great scarlet fire.
doesn;t compare to the 73 shows, but not too shabby.
Subject: Grateful Dead Day
Subject: Barton Hall – 77
“Lazy Lightning>Supplication” was much better in 1976. I would like to abstain from commenting “S>F”, because I can’t say, whether it’s the best version ever or not (I like 1993/9/13 version more or “Closing Winterland” version). It has some special moments, and great transition though.
The latter part of the second set is incredible. “Stephen>NFA>Stephen”. Never heard better intro, and development of the melody before the first verse is wonderful. Transition to NFA is quite a surprise and jamming in the middle before returning to the main theme and then “Stephen” is beyond description! But I can’t understand one thing: what these two songs have in common to be united? And the show’s peak – “Morning Dew”. There were so many great “Dews” that it’s almost impossible to determine the best one. However, I shall say that Cornell’s version is very special
Subject: it alright
thank you boys for bringing joy into my heart!
Subject: "qedbob", you don't have to embelish.
Subject: Happy 30th to an old friend
Subject: 30 years later- still grateful
i mostly remember the BEAUTIFUL music, fire>scarlet, st. stephen, morning dew- drinking in the beauty and energy, realizing that there truly was nothing like a dead concert, and after the show passing by the sound board and thinking how all the music i just heard went through it (and am so thankful now for the crystalline recording of this inspired performance that i can now, and do, relive regularly)- and walking out into the cold- well- just snow!! (it was a warm may upstate evening going in) and getting marooned overnight in the car with friends after driving off the side of the country road, waiting for the morning sun to show us the way back to buffalo, where i was then going to school.
playing with the idea of seeing dso in ithaca for the 30th anniversary, but in some ways the pure experience lives most clearly in my mind and whenever i play it on cd or ipod walking in central park or driving in the car.
Subject: BIG spring '77
Subject: cold snow
i also remember seeing steve mayzner there, so this one is special.
Subject: row jimmy row you b*****d
This is a wonderful recording, very easy to put in the car deck and not change ....for a week!
I think this is one of those cases when the aud is better than the sbd,imo. It has alot of range and everyone "is in the mix".
The band were on this night and the double drummer shuffle style was nailed down perfectly.
Nobody could tickle the ivories like kieth, infact i don't listen to much post kieth stuff,
too much organ "fill".
Anyhoo, highly recommended both for sound and band performance.
Subject: Really glad I found this site
Subject: Three point seven five stars - Tepid Scarlet Fire???
Subject: Thanks Mom
Subject: Thanks, Mom
Subject: Brown Eyed Women
One of the best shows ive ever heard.
Subject: Barton in the Snow
it is like gold...
coveted by the poor
taken for granted by the rich
--- it snowed during this show?
-- in May?
thank you b cantor
there is NOTHING like a gratfuldead show
Subject: Three point seven five stars.
The first set is pure magic--all the way through. I always hated Minglewood Blues until I listened to this show--now that's changed. This Row Jimmy is really a classic. The Morning Dew at the end of set 2 is also outstanding.
It's only that I really consider myself a Scarlet->Fire kind of guy, and this Scarlet->Fire just strikes me as a really average, tepid rendition. Doesn't hold a candle to Dick's Picks 18 or even 84-10-30 on this archive. I like to have only really hot Fires in my collection and this one...eh.
Subject: one for the vault!!!!!
Subject: smokin show, good quality AUD
Subject: as i've heard
Subject: Phil in the Blank
Subject: my first review and show
Subject: un grand merci ! big thank you !
Subject: Daddy Took the Car Keys Away
This is a great show and although I miss the soundboards, I love a great AUD source, and this is outstanding.
Subject: Pure Magic
Subject: Wiping drool from keyboard
Subject: Excellent Recording.
Subject: Well, here's a question
Subject: woo = woo
...wonder what I'm a'gonna listen to while looking for that lighter...
Jerry Christmas and Happy New Weir, y'all.
Subject: nice aud of a classic
Here's some uplifting news considering the whole debacle...does anyone know any more about this?
one can only hope...
Subject: here's the place to go sign a petition
the music will always be near and dear to my heart, but i know someone at Grateful Dead Merchandising well, and this decision is nothing more than people trying to figure out how to make an additional dollar. it's just sad, and I will probably not patronize GDM again. 5 stars forever to the music
Subject: too good to be true
Subject: They forgot 11-1-79 & 5-15-70 sbds
Plus 6-8-74. Still has 2nd set sbd....
Subject: End of an era, are a retrench
Subject: THE BEST!
Subject: THE BEST!
Subject: In Tune
Subject: oh calm down already
Subject: Smokin show and venue
P.S. Lazy Lightning/Supplication...
Is this the original here or is it the spliced in version?
Subject: HIGHly recomenDEAD!
Subject: One of the truly special shows
As for the show itself, there is little that can be added to the many previous reviews, except, perhaps, to note the sometimes unheralded gems of the first set. Everyone knows how otherworldly the second set is and of course the Dancin' from set one is held as perhaps the finest version around. But depsite a somewhat disappointing Minglewood, almost every version of songs from set one could be thought of as "best" versions. In particular my favorites are Loser, TLEO, Jack Straw (for its fluidity and perfect groove, how often do you think of this song for its groove?!), BE Women (again for the ease and fluidity of Jerry's playing and the rest of the band not getting in the way), Row Jimmy (some of Jer's best slide work ever!), and Dancin' (finding the non-stop, eternal groove).
The second set has the bonus of "everybody's favorite fun game Take-A-Step-Back". And beside the mundane Estimated, the set is perfectly, ineffibly transcendant. This show can certainly hold its own against the great shows that are on the tip of the tongue for so many deadheads. 2/13/70, 8/27/72 and 5/8/77 may be the most talked about shows of all time. And that is not to say that they are the "best" shows per se, because grading is always going to be subjective, but they definitely have whatever qualities it takes to be mentioned with the best! And IMO it is just fun to listen and then attempt to explain what it is that made the experience so miraculous...enjoy!
Subject: Cornell 5/8/77
I went to Bonnaroo 2004, and passed out after 2 days of heat and drugs, and the ice storm knocked me out and I missed what would have been a fairly good introduction to the dead... Later that summer in late July I would finally witness the magic of the dead at blossom music center with warren haynes. a killer show and a great way to get me started... now back to my review.... i've been searching this archive for over 6 months now looking for the holy grail, and I got this show off of Soulseek, not the archive. But regardless of where you get it, it's when you sit the hell down and pretend like your there and let the music take you to that place where time doesn't exist and nothing matters but your next breath and the next note jerry is going to hit... this show is my holy grail so far... nothing i've heard compares to it... the st. stephen is insane... i've never heard another example of jerry playing so fast, he RIPS THE FRETBOARD APART! i've been playing guitar for 10 years, since I was 10 years old, and I didn't get serious about it until about one year ago. I knew jerry had it in him to just tear it up but no one ever had this kickass tape. thank the lord for jerry and the boys, and bless the lord for this technology we have!
Subject: Weather Report
Subject: Best show ever?
Subject: Best Ever S---> F ?
Best ever show? I dunno, what is this, the NFL? This show is undeniably fun, from the big Minglewood, to the funkified, all-out Danicin' that is sure to put a smile on your face, or make you jump up and start doing the robot dance, Dead-style. To the Dew, sweet, sweet finale.
It is uniquely positioned as perhaps the one show that we as a family have in common, along with maybe 8/27/72, from the newby who just jumped on the bus in 2005 to those of us who wore out our XL II's of it decades ago. It's place in GD lore was cast long ago, but it is so great to relive the debate through archive online, something I only imagined in my wildest dreams in the years after 1995.
All the best. Being a 77-ologist, if anyone has any FILM whatsoever from that year to get me started, PLEASE email me at [email protected]gmail.com
Subject: Hype over this show = WORTH IT....
Subject: Amazing show
Subject: Some Perspective on the Show
Subject: I have a secret
Subject: great show
Subject: Great Dead Download
Subject: Hats off to taper Steve Maizner
Subject: Also: A great Not Fade Away Jam
Subject: For this amazing show, I actually prefer the Audience recording
Subject: the best fucking show ever
Subject: Morning Dew
Subject: This show Rocks!
Subject: My favorite show
Subject: Great show, too much hype
Subject: great show
Subject: Yes it is great
Subject: Simply Phenomenal!
Simply put, this is the single best live performance I have ever heard from any group at anytime, at any venue. It is absolutely perfect. Even non-Dead fans or one-time Dead haters that I know have been converted thanks to this show. The one comment I get most from those I play it for is that they can't believe it is live. That's how perfect this show is. Get it for yourself and listen, you just won't believe it. THE BEST!
Subject: NOT THE WORST SHOW EVER
Subject: Worst show Evar!!!!
(but what do I know...)
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